sports foundation, which has the distinction of being headquartered in newtown, connecticut where that massive school shooting was last month, none of these other groups are really seen as all that influential in the field or even all that well known. but there are other gun advocacy groups in the country besides the nra, who were not at that meeting today. take, for example, from the '08 presidential election. the nra in that election endorsed john mccain for president, saying he had steadfastly voted against every gun and ammunition ban in congress. that was the nra endorsement of mccain for president in '08. at the same time the gun owners of america, which is a competing organization, they compete with the nra. they were denouncing john mccain as a liberal gun grabber. not only did they not endorse mccain in his 2008 election, they gave him an f rating on their a to f scale as a politician. this competing group with the nra touts an endorsement on their web page from ron paul. ron paul calling them the only no compromise gun lobby in washington.