have to give us spending cuts. and by the way, the republicanss think they're out of the tax spending business. the president thinks they will. they also believe they have the leverage now with the debt ceiling. the only way the president gives him that leverage is to negotiate with them. so he has to stand very, very firm on that. >> i'm betting that he is going to stay tough on the debt ceiling. and i'm also betting, i may be the only one. i think they're going to pull more revenue out in the next congress through tax reform elements on deductions and exemptions, we'll see what happens on that. ezra klein and jared bernstein, thank you. and coming up, republican governor chris christie versus boehner, and university john king, versus john boehner. and more on hillary clinton's condition and the republicans who lied about that. and in the rewrite tonight, the secret governing, totally