that's something that republicans tell me they will grab on to and try to work on, making some structuredal changes that would reduce the deficit. >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. >> thank you, kelly, so much. >> reporter: good to see you. >> good to see you, too. john costa, you don't think boehner is going to pay it all with his base in the house for bringing a bill to the floor where he knew he wasn't going to get a majority of the majority vote and basically turning the house floor over to mitch mcconnell, harry reid and joe biden? >> joe, i was really struck by your comments this morning. because you really sounded like a lot of the house republicans who walked off the floor last night, just livid, fed up that speaker boehner was allowing this to come to the floor for a clean vote. i mean, your comments sound exactly like all these house conservatives, the rank and file. and they're going to make this debt ceiling a real showdown. if you think this was brinksmanship, just wait till late february, march. because almost every conservative member is going to push extremely hard from