>> it sounds like these guys are sick of each other. >> is that something you can report that they don't like each other, they talk like guys on a street corner? >> they'll all say they like each other. >> do they talk like guys toughing it out on the street corner? >> i think they do sometimes. >> what's amazing about that story in the journal is they're still having a conversation. >> its editorial pages and straight paper. did you get the sense this is a little tilted towards the republicans because of the sourcing? just about the way they admitted the source. didn't the obama people say we didn't want to participate in this because they thought it would harm the negotiations in progress? >> mark from politico had extra reporter around that. the president was saying when he said i get the $800 billion for free was pointing out people like johnny isaacson, tom cole in the house, conservative