feinstein quick to criticize and they had a news conference to respond to the nra and i read from the police report from 1999 and she was noting that at columbine there were two armed guards that could not stop the killers. let's listen to that, and then, mark, i want to get your response to that. >> there were two armed law enforcement officers who twice engaged the shooters at columbine. that didn't prevent 15 from being killed and 23 wounded. >> mark, you know, the nra, we all know here in this conversation. it's been so powerful for so many years, in another day and age, lawmakers and the public might have listened to what he said yesterday, but this is now. what is different here in terms of his call for arming schools? will even be listened to? >> richard, normally the pr 101 is a group that seems to be under siege and of course, the nra was attracting a lot of