making more than $400,000 a year. to talk about this and his new book, senior writer of the wall street editorial page, stephen moore. he's out with a new book "who's the fairest of them all. the truth about opportunity, taxes and wealth in america." first of all, fiscal cliff, are you hopeful and does it sound like what they're close to might be fair? >> it depends on -- this is such a moving target in terms of what the final negotiations will be. i always predicted near midnight december 24 or december 31 they will reach a deal. the question is whether it will be something good for the economy and something i had in my book, does it really make sense to be raising tax rates when we have a high unemployment rate. one of the point i make in the book the fairest system of them all would be a flat tax, something steve forbes talks about in the 1990s keeps rates low and broadens the base and