made it uncool to drive drunk. >> right. >> and smoking, of course, is now ruled as uncool in society. but what is it going to take to change the gun culture in america? dr. dyson, in black communities in this country, in poor neighborhoods in this country, we are seeing the penetration of guns and ruining lives. and now we're at elementary schools. i mean, what do we have to do? >> you're right. >> this is a culture now of violence. >> you see, drinking and smoking didn't have attached to them the immediacy of a constitutional amendment that would support their ostensible advocates. when you have got this gun lobby, it's so deep and so profound. i thank congressman ellison for reminding us there are those in congress who will stand up. but the gun lobby is so deep, their pockets are so profound, and they've got the ability to bully people, that we've got to stand up to them and say, look, this is enough. it happens at every level, in white communities, in brown communities, in asian communities, latino communities,