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and it is left to be told to them. and the governor was among those who were there to tell the parents that your children are not going to be coming home. and so i think it goes without saying the devastation that this community is feeling. the sense of -- i wouldn't even can say outrage yet. in my experience at these things, the outrage comes later. but the total femaling of hopelessness and senselessness that has overcome this community as they try to figure out why something like this could happen, rachel. >> chris, thinking about that initial response, thinking not just about what it must have been like to be personally connected to that, but to be a first responder coming upon that scene and needing to do the active shooter search that we know that law enforcement did once they determined that the shooter was dead, then assessing what had happened there, treating it as a crime scene, trying to identify the victims. do we have any further information about how they have had to process this massive and

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