it's just -- here's -- the bright side of this is that the fact that they're doing this, they know that the people don't want what they want. that's what they've got to do it in a rush right now before january 1st because january 1st these new democrats come in and there's enough moderate republicans in the state that that will be the majority. >> it just goes against the culture of the state. everything the state has ever been. birthplace -- >> it goes against the united states of america. that's right. it's not just the birthplace of the -- it's the birthplace of the middle class. there was no middle-class before flint. there was a great middle class after flint and for decades after that. and they've been on this run since reagan. they've been doing whatever we could do to make sure that wages remain stagnant, that jobs are shipped out -- this governor snyder, you understand what he did before he was the governor of michigan. >> he shipped jobs it china. >> he was at gateway computers. which by the way, i think we can