he is french and chinese but he decided to check the caucasian box on his ivy league application to. this is what he did, he reported being asian. are a lot of kids gaming the system, i guess learning early on that they have to leverage their ethnicity to get the best outcome? >> well, race as a combination has split between generations. those 40 and over, race seems to be a static concept. those younger seem they have a better understanding of what race can mean functionally. i'll give you an example. at our school, we are a magnate school. there are times when families will say it's right. i have families say my kid is going to be white to get into capital prep and black to get into college. it's a conversation that we have all over the country. now we have a president who is black and whose mother is white like me.