the country is center right in a large measure sure? we can't have another arithmetic system. >> this is not about the math, facts and realities. the number is 51% of the people identify themselves as pro-life. i'd say that's a little center right. >> no, they support the right -- they don't -- >> that's another show. >> they don't believe in outlawing abortion and support life. >> self-identify as pro-life. let's move on. the point is this. >> no. i can't move on. >> an amendment failed in mississippi. >> the people are pro-choice. when it comes to values, they may be conservative against abortion. >> we can't go any further, michael, i respect you so much. you said the country is center right and your evidence of that is obama won? what evidence do you have? >> i'm talking about on those issues the conservative movement will be talking to the country about.