anything government can do to try to stimulate additional job growth, something that he as president has to be thinking about, even if he believes, and i think he does, the economy is turning around if we can get this debt piece off the table, that it's going to free up more economic activity. but there's still a lot of caution on the part of business. >> and looking down the road, chris cizilla, the president also has a lot of foreign policy challenges, there's a threat of another nuclear weapons test from north korea, you've got chemical weapons threatened in syria as assad is losing ground to the rebels, the russians and possible productive diplomacy with hillary clinton and others on her team, a lot on the president's plate. they have to get this stuff out of the way. >> it's -- the challenge of being president in this modern age, there's so many challenges to being president. i would say -- i mean i think the thing i'm most struck by is syria. it just seems to me, you have the -- what looks likes the