cannot access new health care, because you had a pre-existing condition. it was actually better to have to live below the poverty line to be able to access medicaid, because in order to pay out of pocket for these, you would have to be making $250,000. every other normal job' world in the middle actually meant that you didn't have access to care. >> just to add to that, think about the message that sends to people. it is better to be below the poverty line to have a healthier life. what does that say about my self-worth and my values a person. >> the one thing that aca, for all of its shortcomings, the fact that it addresses that pre-existing condition really matters. i want to stay on this a bit. when we come back, we are also going to talk to an actress, author, and aids activist, sheryl lee ralph. she is a fabulous actor and an amazing activist. i have a cold... i took dayquil, but i still have a runny nose.