plenty of reasons why holiday shopper's attention and their wallets should be shifted away from big chain stores and towards mom and pop shops in their area. joining me now is the mayor of tulsa, oklahoma, mayor dewey bartlett. what is tulsa doing to get ready for small business saturday? >> what we're doing is having a lot of local promotions, from our claim ber as well as from our city government. what we are trying to do is very specifically. in our downtown area, we are opening up buildings that have specialized shops inside the building in larger areas where they have an opportunity, because of one bit of advertising that brings people in the door. they can see a variety of shops in one building. it's sort of like having a mall in the downtown area. >> mayor, for a lot of people that want to support small business but they want to do one-stop shopping at a big box store, it is a little bit cheaper at a big box store.