caucus. on the governor's side you have a lot of hispanic and indiana-american governor es showing the way. >> you make the point that four of the five women serving as governors in 2013 are republicans. you look at large majorities of african-americans. latino and asian americans voting democratic, the question may be how important for the gop's future are women and minority governors to the party, and they clearly have more at this point than actually the democrats do at that level? >> yeah, it's really remarkable when you look at the the governors and how they have a much more diversity and ethnicity and in gender. and it's a real model when you look at the the exit polling data showing how badly romney underperformed with female voters and how he just did terribly with hispanics and asian-americans. you look at -- if identity is going to be a big factor in the upcoming election. you can look at susan martinez and bobby jindal.