thing the president said in the meeting, any good joke he told anything? >> well you know one thing that i really heard from them was that they understand that this is a different situation than 2011 and 2010 that this election was a mandate, political circumstances were different, and we have an opportunity now. one thing they have been talking about publicly and in this meeting was the need for investment in the short term that can create jobs. so you know he said the president said that's absolutely something that he wants to see in a deal and obviously that's a good thing to hear as well. it wasn't a joke but happens to be really important. >> that's the real deal. >> justin ruben of moveon.org,