>> thank you for having me. >> before we get to you, steve we have been talking about this road tested strategy, which worked very well for the president in 2011. it seems like he has realized to get things done in washington you have to get out, take it out to the folks in america, you have to use the bullypull pit and then be do the back room negotiations with the republicans and make them fight for it. >> i think that was the strategy for the white house from august 2011 on. you had the debt ceiling debacle, where his approval rating in the wake of that went down to an all-time low, starting to look at that point this could be a one-term president. after that the white house basically concluded we're not getting any compromise out of the republican congress before the 2012 election. that's when he introduced the american jobs act. he knew they weren't going to act on it, but this is my blueprint, take it to the people. he had the speech in can is. did get them to fold on the payroll tax. that's significant, they folded on the payroll taxes last year, they were being obstructionists, they felt the pressure of we could get blamed for a