time for the "morning joe gridiron grind." mike florio is back with us, he is, of course, the founder of profootballtalk.com. let's start with the falcons no longer undefeated. what happened in new orleans? >> the saints have done very well against the falcons since drew brees got there in 2006. the falcons have only won twice. so it felt like this was going to come. and the saints have been hot. they started 0-4, they're running the ball more now that joe witt joe vitt is back. you get the running game going, you have the passing game. the defense has improved. it couldn't have gotten much worse. and it was time for the falcons to lose. they've had close games. joe knows it in his heart, his falcons weren't going to go 16-0. it was a matter of time and yesterday was the time. >> there's something about the saints, too, i know they're 4-5, but they still have drew brees. they had that turmoil with the bounty scandal. don't you think they'll be there at the end? >> everything feels like it's settled down, but here's the thing. you've got the tampa bay bucs