>> i think a lot of senate democrats would like to see that. i also bring up social security. jay carney mentioned social security could be part of some grand bargain. senate democrats especially harry reid do not want to such social security. so i think there will somebody road blocks there. it will take negotiation through all three chambers to get something done. two chambers, excuse me. >> andy, who blinks first? >> i would say the president has more leverage at this point. after the election, there's been a lot of soul searching on the republican side about can we not appeal to latinos, are we losing women. and if we do go over the fiscal cliff, there's a chance republicans will get blamed for that and they could lose support in the business community. there's another factor here. if all tax rateses for americans rise on january 1st, the president can just come back and say, hey, i've got a great idea,