fej fundamental problem, he said, well, i'm a pragmatic, blah, blah, blah. you can't run in the republican party and not identify yourself as a conservative. republican party is the conservative party. >> you can run if you have a plan that's called 9-9-9 and you can run if you don't remember your last name and if you're former speaker of the house. >> those guys all lost. but those guys all lost. we're just talking about what john huntman could ha jon huntsman could have done to win. he alienated the party he was introducing him to at the outset. >> erick erickson and many other conservatives including myself said look at the guy's record. he's got the most conservative record. and he did have, of all the candidates -- >> you're talking about huntsman. >> -- huntsman. but here is one of the biggest setbacks, one of the biggest problems the republican party's had over the last four years, will willie. you are considered conservative -- the litmus test now for being conservative in