people are very happy with the performance. of paul ryan. in the campaign. if he goes onto be vice president or if they lose, he has a big future in the republican party. he's the first gen xer on the ticket. he's going to be a player in republican politics for the next generation. >> how can the campaign both be super happy with him and there be no rift and the campaign be telling politico actually we wanted chris christie? >> i don't know how those storistor stories come to be. i'm sure somebody is talking to somebody at politico saying we wish it was chris christie. but i have no idea. i doubt very much that's mitt romney's thoughts. mitt romney cowell have picked chris christie. there was no disqualifying reason why he didn't pick chris christie. he went with the first choice. his first choice was clearly paul ryan. i take their word for it what they said at the time. >> why are the leaks happening at all? to me the truth of the leak, whether or not paul ryan really is going to become a university professor and set himself up for the presidency if they lose this year seems beside this point