midwest. and, david, that's where they feel like they got to pick off a couple of states, not just ohio, ohio plus something else. >> it's interesting, as i talked to the romney campaign at the end of the week, they were emphasizing the momentum argument. they feel the debates gave him a second look in such a way that he can carry that through election day. the obama folks say look at the electoral math. we could be in for quite a finish here, if they're both right. >> they could be both right. because we've talked about the popular vote thing and let me throw you -- we've seen some polling out today. if you look at the president's lead, for instance, on the west coast in california, the lead has been cut in half. i've done some math, you can see where mitt romney makes up some 6 to 8 million votes. john mccain lost by 10 million votes. he could pick up a whole bunch of votes in the battleground states. let's go to our battleground map. we have the president winning in virginia, wisconsin is a state