room. he knows how to relate. he's a very relatable person. and he is going to be very sincere, as he always is, naturally. he's a very sincere person. on the other hand, mitt romney has been kind of a stiff shirt. this is going to be the heavy lift for mitt romney tonight, to show that he can relate to people, and how quickly he can do it on his feet when he's given a question. this plays right into the president's strength, i think. >> let me say this, though. in these situations, discipline really matters. there's a certain amount you can't prepare for. but one thing mitt romney has been is disciplined. he has been -- you know, he was very disciplined in the first debate, he was very well prepped. he stayed on what he wanted to stay on. and i don't put it past him to be like that in this debate. i think mitt romney's a pretty good debater. he showed that last time. i expect him to be good in this format. >> when i was in the '04 races, you can't plan the same way for a town hall meeting. because you're not talking to experts that will ask you a question based on some expert background. you don't know what the question