go to a much more aggressive form of privatization. he continued to promote different forms of privatization through the next decade until 2010. it was when he really got charged with creating a budget that all republicans could sign on to that boehner and other members said you have to take this out of your budget because we can't go into battle like this. ryan was, in terms of what you had in the house, he was the leader of the privatization movement and was much more committed to it than just your run of the mill average conservative. >> this seems like a really important moment in the campaign. this, to me, seems like something that's very, very important. in 2004, george w. bush won re-election and said i earn political capital, now i'm going to spend it. he tried to spend it on privatizing social security. paul ryan was on board. the democrats have now signaled as of this debate tonight they're going to try to it hold him to that, make him run on privatizing social security.