>> because joe biden did what president obama should have done which was to look into the camera and look at me, i'm a democrat. all right? i've been in the senate for years. we're the democratic party. we believe in medicare. we believe in social insurance. do you trust me or do you trust this 40-something-kid who comes from the world of conservative think tanks scheming to get rid of the program since its beginning and inception? who do you trust? that was just the simple question. he said, look at the reputational capital that has been built up over time in those two parties over what we are going to do. and trust yourself on who is going to vouch save medicare. >> on the issue of afghanistan, it was clear paul ryan is arguing a position, passionately, that's unpopular. i mean -- >> what is the position? >> there's no -- well, he got lost in the answers on afghanistan. i don't disagree with that at all. the point is the position the vice president was arguing which is we want to have afghan forces doing that, we want less