>> it's not -- >> 7.4 million seniors are projected to lose the current medicare advantage coverage they have. that's a $3,200 benefit cut. >> that didn't happen. more people signed up. more people -- >> these are from your own actuaries. >> more people signed up for medicare advantage after the change. nobody -- >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost round, i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> don't take all the four minutes then. >> we're saying don't change benefits for people 55 and above. they already organized their retirement around these promises. >> let me ask you this. what is your specific plan for seniors who really can't afford to make up the difference in the value of what you call a premium support plan and others call a voucher? >> 100% coverage. that's what we're saying. so we're saying income adjust these premium support payments by taking down the subsidies for wealthy people. look, this is a plan, by the way, that $6,400 number was