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top romney people told me immediately after the debate joe biden did check off all the boxes. he said he tried to fit ten pounds into a five-pound bag. >> well, i do that. >> i think biden had a tougher thing to do. it was sort of a dive with more degree of difficulty. he executed it well. ryan had some good counterattack lines. biden is the one who had to do what he did and he did it. >> john, you know how i score these things? not with say who won, who won. it's how the polls move the next couple days thereafter. clearly the result of the first presidential debate was very helpful to romney. i will predict now, benghazi suspect going to move many voters. abortion rights is going to move a lot of voters, especially single women. you're going to see movement away from romney/ryan in the next couple days. >> i think if you think about what mitt romney accomplished in

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