tonight in oakland. >> so another story, though, is the nats. another cinderella story. their backs are up against the wall now, right? >> they're in trouble. they got their doors blown off at home yesterday. it was the first playoff game in washington forever. the crowd was up. they lost 8-0. so now they face elimination at home against the cardinals. >> what is it about the st. louis cardinals? i mean, you know, we always talk about the yankees in october. what is it about the cardinals? you let them in the playoffs -- >> they've got good pitching, and there's always a guy. remember it was david freese last year, who is this guy? and he just comes up time and time again. yesterday it was this kid kozma. they always seem to find these guys. they're looking good to close the series out. coming up next, editor of bloomberg businessweek, josh tyrangiel joins us. keep it here on "morning joe." i've worked hard to build my family.