it's got to be shared sacrifice. congress has to share in the sacrifice. not in impunity fashion. but in order to avoid deep cuts in middle class programs. but it's got to be something that starts off with both parties on board. otherwise, it's just so easy to demagog anything that's done. >> thank you for joining me tonight and thank you for getting steve martin into your campaign and entertaining us. >> my pleasure. >> thanks again. coming up, in the rewrite tonight. the mad scientist on the house committee on science. and emmy-winning actor and big bird defender richard schiff will join us. [ male announcer ] feeling like a shadow of your former self? c'mon, michael! get in the game! [ male announcer ] don't have the hops for hoops with your buddies? lost your appetite for romance? and your mood is on its way down. you might not just be getting older.