the president had a down night. i go, these guys are both really smart. and i like both of these guys as human beings. they're good, decent men. they're great fathers. they're great husbands. and i said, you know, for all of the bitching that we do day in and day out in the media and that americans do, aren't we lucky to live in a country where these two men are fighting for our votes? >> that's a great point. that's a great point. >> they're great men. >> you can't call it a campaign about nothing after that debate because that was 90 minutes of pure substance. and it was so clear, two totally different visions of the country. they laid them out. if you're an independent voter, you can decide which one you think is better for the country. mitt romney i think finally gave a very clear explanation of what conservatism means to him. president obama, as he has over the last 3 1/2 years, explained his vision for the country. and now you can choose. it's right there in front of