amen moment from the person they have already voted for perhaps in early voting or they plan to vote for? >> i think darn few are looking who are not already decided. when you look at the internals of, for example, that most recent nbc news/"wall street journal" survey, support runs deep, people are very passionate. so, to gene's point, governor romney tonight needs to go into the living rooms of the buckeye state. he needs to reach people in ohio, in particular who, tamron, are up for grabs because if he can't turn things around in that state, it's not going to happen. >> but to michael's point, chuck todd was discussing this morning, there is a conversation of whether or not mitt romney will pull out of ohio. he is significantly behind and perhaps put resources in other states such as wisconsin. so, if michael's theory correct that he needs to focus on the folks in the buckeye state and win them over, he is down nine or ten points depending on the poll there again this is not his first time running for president and this is not his first time