about folks are too lazy and knowing who he's talking about are single moms who are raising kids, who are working, who may number a county where there's no d.o.t. or in a county where the d.o.t. is open one day or may are a boss that if they have to go back twice -- and part of the game here in pennsylvania was when you went in for a free i.d., they ran you through all the hoops to see if you could get a driver's license. and then if that filed, said, by the way, here is a free i.d. that's much easier to get. and, you know, it just -- look, guys, we got to get back to a place, and frankly past gop chairs like ken mehlman have talked about this, where we try to win on the ideas. where it's not about suppression, not about intimidation. just running an honest race and cutting bait with the nasty tactics they seem to drag out whenever they get nervous. >> let me ask jim burn, the chair of the party, have the african-american community been emotionally responsive to this? did they know they were the target in large part of this effort? >> absolutely, chris. and, you know, we were worried a