people at the top should pay more, the middle class should not pay more. romney's position is getting through. people at the top get a big tax cut. everybody who wants to claim gets 20% but he's going to close all these loopholes like mortgage interest which is going to hit the average middle class family very hard. >> what's hitting them hard is the differential they have on middle class. it's up to double digits. huge advantage for the president. thank you, bob shrum. not much of a debate between shrum and corn -- >> i salute corn. >> we were trying to find a republican to represent the romney crowd. two big complaints from conservatives. they say republicans would take the white house if only mitt romney weren't the nominee. really? who would they have preferred? newt? santorum? perry? democrats have outpolled republicans if you count all the elections over the last five times. maybe the problem isn't mitt romney. maybe it's the party. complaint number two, paul ryan has been neutered by a too cautious romney campaign. believe that?