progressive group of delegates, they're moving -- they're setting up a 2004 election. >> let's take abortion. the entire day, in almost every speech, they're talking about abortion. and if you think about where public polling is on abortion where the country is very divided, you have the party offering a full throated defense of the right to have abortion, sort of any time, anywhere, which if you think about where politics is today that's as extreme a position on the left as republicans have taken on the right. if you're in a state like north carolina, where social issues still do matter to swing voters, i do wonder if that hurts them or helps them given it's going to come down to ten states some of them have a lot of people who are in the middle who are authentically undecided. i think that's different from bill clinton. bill clinton would not prescribe many of the content of many of the speeches you've heard. you can do this in a good way,