you run something and how do you run it effectively? >> so how will he run this country effectively? what information you have -- >> he would say there is a management style to the office. like, one, bringing in people who just aren't in politics, aren't just in washington. two, running it with some efficiency. he would say i want truly to have metrics. i'll give you a checklist. he'll say most politicians make promises. i'm saying i'm going to physically give you a card and score me for the first hundred days think about if you score most people in their first hundred days, they almost always fail to push everything they promise to push. it's not that he doesn't have a theory of the case. we're not used to it. most people have a political theory of the kashs not a management -- >> he's promised to be a budget cutter and he's not giving you any details.