>> let's move on to another interpretation. >> here's what i know. i know that everybody, democrat and republican, campaign and noncampaign, has been focus grouping like crazy among undecided, working class white women. >> right. >> especially in places like ohio. but -- in every swing state, and what i'm told is that the republicans found, to their surprise, over recent weeks, that the welfare ad really worked with those women. now, they were surprised, because women don't, as often, respond on the welfare issue, but at a time when everybody's strapped, when everybody's struggling, old resentments resurface. that's my interpretation of what's happening. now, wait a minute, the romney people saw that, and they're defending and using and driving, with money, an ad that every fair -- every fair analyst, every fact checker from the -- every fact checker has said is just factually wrong. >> an ad that you just sat here and admitted that white women,