election to be about trivia because they don't want a referendum on the president. what romney's got to do is break through all that. we do need to adjust the tone of politics on both sides. i'm a liberal in the republican party. i'm for the path forward. the more we debate these side issues the more we not only take attention away from stuff i think we're better at we take attention away from people screaming every poll. the voters are not confused. this is a jobs election. that's the election they want. that's what they want to hear about. and i think the traditional kickoff of the campaign, not for junkies like us, is now, the convention. and i think that's what mitt romney's going to do. >> i would just say that i think the president's trying to turn this into a values election, and there's some people that argue, and i think mike might be one of those, that every election is a values election on who wins the values argument. the idea of who connects more, who is more representative or reflective of who you want to be. that's the danger here for romney is that obama has turned this and the democrats have turned this into a values election with women and with hispanics, and they've done it in a segmented way within different parts of group. how does romney take this economic argument and turn it into a values argument rather than just sort of the businessman approach, on the