to what he said the other day when he talked about the row case. he said there's an example of somebody saying rape when there wasn't rape. that's what he's denying he said before. he wasn't apologizing for what he said. he's not even admitting what he said. your thoughts. >> nor did he apologize for the warped notions of his physiological and biology of women. what bothers me is we could nominate a guy like this in the first place. >> what about ryan? what about ryan? is he any different than this guy except in his charm, perhaps, he's a more charming guy? you heard him on the plane right there. he was double-talking about what he himself had introduced. the language of forcible rape. >> yeah, it's unclear from that answer exactly what he had in mind, whether it was related to consensual sex, i don't know. i'd sure like a clearer answer. it's problematic. we're talking about paul ryan's abortion record rather than his economic and tax plan. that's a problem. >> he said 252 members voted for