to win. >> i hear some liberals, brooklyn hipsters snickering around this set, thoses of us that believe that barack obama is leading this country down a path of low growth, high unemployment, with disastrous economic policies that will not work but will drive us deeper in debt. guess what, kurt, we don't have na conversation because the republican party seems to always get in the way of it. if we could have a straight on economic debate, with a guy that understood or a woman that understood economic principles like thatcher or somebody that could even express it like reagan, we would win by ten points. the republican party never has that chance because -- because? >> because? >> we allow goof balls to change the narrative. it's not just now. i mean, in 2009, we had glen beck, the most dominant