book "our divided political heart." great to have both of you with us. joan, you first, no doubt, we have a distinction here. we have a choice. but is this the way ryan is going to be on the campaign trail? they can't define what's going on with medicare and medicare and what the differences are between the two candidates. i'm talking about the presidential candidate and vice presidential candidates, romney/ryan. yet when he's asked something in detail, is he campaigning in disguise? >> that was remarkable, i want to enjoy the fair. that was such a remark of entitlement, ed. you know, you really are pressed to discuss policy at state fairs when you're running for vice president. so it was one of those moments where we really don't know what paul ryan is going to be on a national campaign. he grew up in janesville. he's liked by people in his community. he's gone to washington. he's got a very narrow purview. he's liked by the koch brothers. you know, he's got some friends in high places.