is indict the entire idea of progressivism because i see progressivism as the source, the intellectual source for the government problems plaguing us today. so to me, it's really important to flush progressives out into the field of open debate. >> i love you. >> so people can actually see what this ideology means and where it's going to lead us and how it attacks the american idea. >> okay, hang on just a second. did you see my speech at cpac? >> i read it? i didn't see it, where read a transcript of it. >> i think we're saying the same thing. >> we are saying the same thing. >> it's a cancer. >> exactly. look, i come from -- i'm calling you from janesville, wisconsin, where i'm born and raised, where we raise our family, 35 miles from madison. i grew up hearing about this stuff. this stuff came from these german intellectuals to madison, university of wisconsin, and out from there, the beginning of the last century. this is something we're familiar