people who rely on these benefits are going to get cut the first. they're going to be hurt the worst under a debt crisis. we're saying, if we fix this now, we can keep the current promise to current seniors and people ten years away from retirement. >> so what he's now saying on the campaign trail with mitt romney is that president obama will scare seniors about what they want to do about medicare, here is now a duo finally saying, let's solve the problem before change is forced upon the people who need these programs most. >> yeah, well, let's be clear. the president already has taken steps that added eight years to the life of medicare and his budget would add several more. he's made some important choices that are going to help that program moving forward. >> eight years is not a real -- >> but the question -- but -- >> eight years -- >> there's no doubt david that we've got to do more. but the question is are you going to do it in a way that preserves the program and the basic integrity of the program and the access to care that seniors need, or are you going to turn it into a voucher program with ever-decreasing value of the vouchers relative