the ryan rivlin program, bill clinton's omb director, they came together on the medicare program. on the premium support proposal of paul ryan he's got an interesting ally in ron widen. we'll see how much pressure is put on ron widen this way. what ryan says, if you want to save medicare you have to do something. let's be clear, no changes for anybody over 55. people under 55 can stay with traditional medicare, or they can go to the premium support system. the argument needs to be made. but he's not the only one making it, and some very prominent democrats have backed paul ryan in the past. we'll see if they step up. >> let me get to a break here. i want to get back, talk more about the politics of the ryan pick. look at the battleground map, as well, as we see this race not only getting into a higher gear but really changing in its direction. back with more of our roundtable right after this. [ female anno] foamtastic news! nice'n easy colorblend foam is winning top beauty awards hands down! with beautiful tones and highlights... no other foam lasts longer.