it sounds like he was describing ryan. he clearly -- that's what he wants to do with this pick. but again, it did create the bright lines. i want to go back to something else. any time we've been in a situation where a presidential nominee or nominee to be feels as if they need the running mate pick to sort of redefine their candidacy and campaign, it's usually not -- it usually doesn't end well. it may help the race get closer. al gore needed something to define his campaign as not clinton and found it in joe lieberman. got it close, some would say did get him over the finish line. it is what it is. you look at what john mccain did with sarah palin and what walter mondael did with ferraro. a nominee is trying to define themselves -- being defined as