program. the current program asks young people to pay more and more, get less and less. that's a time bomb. it's not going to loss. >> let's stay on government spending. as a portion of the federal budget, is this one of the areas to cut spending? >> yes. you have to. >> fine. can you cut spending towards medicare? >> you have to change the system. >> you're talking about cutting government spending. i'm just -- >> i'm telling you what we proposed in our tea party budget. more and more of a system that charged people more, gives them less to a defined contribution where people have more control over their retirement decisions. that is the only way to get the liabilities under control. >> i'm just talking about how you cut the spending. would you cut medicaid? >> i think you have to move to a block system. >> how about federal retirement spending? >> you have to keep the promises we have and move to a different in the future. >> would you cut educational?