would add one other thing. the biggest stage a vice presidential candidate is in is in their debate. he's going to be up against joe biden. pawlenty was not a strong campaigner in the nomination fight. think in particular about the two republican debates he took part in. he was disastrously bad in those debates. the romney people recognize one of the great question marks is can he hold his own against joe biden? you have to at least come to a draw if not win that debate. i don't think there's a lot of confidence around tim pawlenty in that area. thank you both very much for joining me tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. coming up -- guess who's being wicked hypocritical on the chick-fil-a controversy? mr. bill o'reilly who's called for more boycotts than he can remember. and in the "rewrite" congress is an alcoholic and nes to watch "fight club."