and, of course, both bush and dole lost those elections. joining me now, cal penn, national campaign co-chair for obama for america and star of "herald and kumar" movies and the television show "how i met your mother" and nbc contributor joy reid star of "the last word." the rule of this show is the person with the fewest credits gets to go first. so on these polling -- >> i'm work on it. >> on the favorability number, if that holds, that's all you need to know. >> that's all you need to know. because until you said the word "felony," i was going to say the only thing worse than being an unpopular candidate going into election where all the negatives about you are reinforced by almost everything you do, right? you're a one percenter who wants to cut the one percenters'