actually doing that. david brooks had a good column i think yesterday in "the new york times" of one of the dumbest cam pans he's seen in sometime from both sides because nobody's talking about the issues that matter. so the big question and the romney folks are not clear on this, will they come out and intellectually sort of set the terms of a debate that's different, thrilling to people looking for new ideas and looking for people to challenge the conventional wisdom in both parties. >> you know, jim, andrea here in washington. >> why. >> the numbers with so many headwinds on the economy that mitt romney isn't doing better and that the president is holding his own and if you believe this -- these polls on these battleground states doing as well as he is in the three states. if he does this well in the three states he's got it locked. >> that has to be troubling of the polling number this is morning. the fact that the favorable i