point where there was a brief moment of silence and i looked up to see if he was anywhere around which i did not find. once i saw that there was a clearing, we booked out of there. >> and there were other people around us as well. we were trying to get everybody out to safety. at that point -- >> and there were kids in the movie? >> yes, there was. i heard there was a 6-year-old kid that got shot. there was a baby in there. there was 14-year-old kids, 13-year-old kids. when we were leaving i saw so many bodies just laying in the stairs, laying on the chairs. they were limp and laying lifeless. they looked dead to me. either that or they were injured. as they were going out, he left before me. he ran before me and i was crawling to try to get out. i nudged into this gentleman and he had a gunshot in his back and at that point i had some former ems training, an emt, and it kicked in instinctively and i took his pulse to see if he was alive or if he was okay. he wasn't doing so hot. i was like, you know, i'm going to save this guy.