as many facts as they can to people looking at this and, you know, ultimately will get to the bottom of it. i mean, i don't know that people will pay as much attention to all of this as they will just to the idea the nature of ven it tour capitalism and of what bain actually did in the marketplace. but i think in the end, people -- and i think it will happen over the course of the summer, they'll make a judgment about okay, this is a guy who basically is a businessman, and, you know, they'll know ultimately go from there. >> donny. >> here's the way -- i agree with everything david said. here's the way you neutralize that one point. i was a ceo technically of my company until 2005 until i handed it off, for about two or three years before that i wasn't running the company anymore. there could have been documents i signed, where i truly was not day-to-day management. that is just a talking point and the reality is, the reality is, that the real smoking gun, i